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Postby MTPaid » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:04 pm

I'm back to limit for at least the rest of the month, trying to clear a bonus. The 1/2 games and occasional 2/4 games are pretty insane over at Full Tilt. Quite the contrast from what it was like when I last played when 1/2 really tight and tough to beat.

This is the 2nd big hand in a severly cold orbit. I had run AK (K-hi flop) into a slight loose extremely aggressive player with AA. This hand happened against an unknown 5 hands later at the same table. This is his first orbit.

I can't, just can't put him on JT calling down there and I can't see him slowplaying a big flopped hand with me betting into him all the way on a drawish board. Anybody not putting in the 3rd river bet here?

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Stacks:
UTG ($19.00)
UTG+1 ($39.00)
MP ($36.25)
CO ($11.75)
BTN ($47.75)
SB ($30.75)
Hero ($65.25)

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 7 players) Hero is BB [8d][8c]
UTG calls, 3 folds, BTN calls, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: [8h][Kd][Ah] (3.5 SB, 3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, BTN calls

Turn: [2s] (3.2 BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, BTN calls

River: [Qs] (6.2 BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, UTG 4-bets, Hero calls
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Postby growlers » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:43 pm

Well, [Jh] [Th] would be a reasonable hand for some people to limp UTG with and then call down on that flop. But you can't fear the monsters under the bed and yeah - I put in the third bet on the river. Much more likely he made two pair with AQ/KQ and will pay you off.
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Postby MTPaid » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:21 pm

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Postby antneye » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:27 pm

I really hate this spot. Would he really limp KQ or AQ? A read would help on this guy. 10 J is so much more likely to be limped by an avg player. I probably play it the same way, but I relly don't expect to win as much as growlers implies.
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Postby growlers » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:45 am

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Postby antneye » Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:57 am

People are always calling down with gutters online. I just had a jackass crack my set (on the turn this time).

My point is, that he will almost always peel the flop with his gutter, and very often peel the turn because he is a jackass destined to suckout (can you tell I'm running bad?).

All in all, I agree with you, but we need to lend more credence to his 10 J possibilities.
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Postby MTPaid » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:53 pm

It was actually much more pathetic than JT. I can never put him on this hand. He played it horribly preflop, flop, and turn. Or maybe he was just trapping with his 2 outter.

1/2 Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at

Stacks:
UTG ($19.00)
UTG+1 ($39.00)
MP ($36.25)
CO ($11.75)
BTN ($47.75)
SB ($30.75)
Hero ($65.25)

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 7 players) Hero is BB [8d][8c]
UTG calls, 3 folds, BTN calls, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: [8h][Kd][Ah] (3.5 SB, 3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, BTN calls

Turn: [2s] (3.2 BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, BTN calls

River: [Qs] (6.2 BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, UTG 4-bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 14.2 BB
Hero shows: [8d][8c]
UTG shows: [Qc][Qd]

UTG wins 13.8 BB ( won +7.8 BB )
BTN lost 2.0 BB
Hero lost 6.0 BB
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